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Can Uysal stupid

Gg Bambar Lol Subedei is Tatar and I m Tatar Turks

1.You are not Turkic you are shit of Oghuz,2.Subeedei is Mongolic general

Munkhbayar Sainjargal I m not Oghuz I m crimean Tatar Subedei is Tuva Turks

He is not Turk,He was Uriankhai clan of Mongol not Turk ! all is turk for you ?

Jun Laxa It was first applied by Hannibal of Carthage against Rome.

selim996 I agree with you. I’m just saying that it is so effective that the basic was adopted by the US and teach it to American Military School.

Well I agree on the first thing you said but he lost a number of battles were he retreated rather then being killed

He technically did lose some battles but they were just tactical retreats to either bait the enemy to chase him into a trap or come back stronger than ever.

The Hungarian General did his best, but was let down by his untrained troops, trying to flee which Alexander would never have permitted. In fact, Alexander would have: 1. Sent out scouts to check both for the enemy and more importantly to guard the river, 2. He would never have concentrated all his troops in a tight, enclosed area, and 3. If trapped in a defensive position would have again concentrated on breaking through the encirclement, probably with all his cavalry. Bottom line, generalship is not about numbers or weapons but about instinctively realizing what the enemy is up to, where his vulnerabilities are and taking advantage of them. Plus you must always control your troops.

but still there is many holes in that strategy its not easy to suspect that enemy split their troop in two group even by sending scouts cuz there was big distance from each group and like i said before it was an ambush and secondly what defensive position could have been better okay the famous wedge position of Alexander in front phalanx and then heavy cavalry but remember the Mongol army specialized with armor-piercing arrows and also catapults as mention in video they can easily adjust in any position so they will crush the very first section which is the most important part of the enemies army Alexander is very smart man so might scatter his strong troops from arrows and boulders but it will lead to disaster obviously, but if he tries to break the siege by all his force then other Mongol army will backfire him from behind, Mongol army use terror by making dummies on horse so they army would look much bigger so Alexander might get problem since he will try to find weak or strong spot and Mongols can easily retreat their group of soldiers which Alexander choose to break and they can make illusion of defeat and by this method they can easily make their enemy in their favorable position to ambush, Its the main and tricky strategic of Mongol army.

He invaded old Russia in winter, the Khwarezmia Islamic empire, the Xi Xia and the Jins of China which were the most advanced military forces of their days. Hungary and Europe were minor league in comparison.

Kenneth N. Shortlidge lol alexander had mostly just infantry his army would be divided and crushed by the out speeding, out flanking, out manuvering army and made up of mixed cavalry, even worse this battle was during night time.

+MultiDEVILMAYCRY123 Read up on the Battle of Jaxartes, Alexander was no fool, he understood the fighting styles of the nomadic cavalry.

Kenneth N. Shortlidge lol no, where do you think the nazis got the blitzkrieg from.

The Great Wall measures just over 13000 miles long. They went around it. It did not matter if the Wall had guards or not. A modern day tank battalion might be able to do 150 miles a day. A Mongol army was able to travel 100 miles a day. And they force marched their horses. They were a professional army. Not merely barbarians.

The Hungarians didn't know the Mongols were fording the river in other locations. They didn't have this graphic that showed them how the enemy was maneuvering at every step. It's easy to be a general when you have perfect information.

Okay fine, I will take back my earlier criticism, but still... even though they had no way of knowing where the mongols were going to appear from, couldn't they have made fortifications? The Romans used to make fortifications all the time, for example Caesar with his battle against vercingetorix, he made himself well fortified, and he did not make one fortification, but two, from the front and back. I am sure the Hungarian nobles or army commanders must have studied some history about warfare, otherwise wtf?

First, this is a battle, at most you can make makeshift fortications, like trenches, spikes and palisades. In Caesar's case againt Vercingetorix he was laying a siege, so he had a lot more time to build. Another big difference is Roman armies were professional soldiers, he had pretty well trained soldiers in all manners of warfare not just the fighting, so they were well versed in foraging and building campaign structures. In this battle, most of the hungarian army, as most medieval armies were levied troops who can't match the structure of campaigning of a professional roman army. And last, leaving freedom of movement against the mongols was exactly their plan, they had siege weapons and were mostly a mobile and ranged force, so campaign structures would be mostly detrimental to the hungarians, because they would just be sitting ducks (as in fact they were in their encirclement).

Alright, I guess i spoke to soon, pretty much the Hungarians were fucked from the get-go. Was there a possibility the Hungarians could have won?

Huns in Hungary come from the same steppes as the mongols but during this era, they abandoned the old ways because of Christian views. They became knight and such.

But the huns are no relatives of mongols. Huns are descendants of a Turkic nomadic tribe. There native land around the Ural. Then they invaded present-day hungary and settled there by Attila the Hun

Original Huns were Mongols. But the Attila Huns are a new nation formed from emigrant Mongolian Huns and a Central Asian Nation Kangui. Kangui was East Iranion nation.

only Hungary's name its related to huns because they ocupied that teritory for a time. the hungarian ppl are totaly different from the fino-ugric tribes

Huns and hungarians have little in common but the name somehow sounds related

Forts only require time to siege and starve out the defenders. The terror tactic of annihilating an entire city would've caused many cities/forts to surrender. The Mongols had to be removed from the field, in another words, crushed in battle. Given their track record and the fact that the Mongols destroyed far more powerful, populous, wealthy and technologically advanced civilizations gives little reason to think that all of Europe would not be conquered.

Mogol at that time was supper power, only defeated 3 times in Vietnam and 2 times in Japan

Mongols highly experienced in siege warfare too.

M Li read subedai the valiant

Battle of the bastards was a yoke. "Lets fire arrows into my own troops so they build a wall of dead people which I can use in my advantage."

Don't mention that battle. Jon Snow is so stupid as a battle commander, playing right into Ramsay's hands.. Sansa is idiotic for not mentioning that lots of cavalry reinforcements were on their way - knowing this beforehand could have saved thousands of lives. And why didn't they arm the giant with a tree or a club! That would have made him so much more effective against pikemen.

StillRooney the mongols vs noobs.

Yes, they had 20, maybe 30, while Hungarians had as few as 4000 -10000 men, numbers are inflated in this video.

yours is wrong too.

+Gerelmaa Sergelen wtf!?!

Eric Methew you are thinking of tsubodais raids into Georgia and Russia. The battle of kalka river when his two tumans took on 80 thousand Russians. No this battle happened 20 years later and was more even in numbers. Maybe 4 tumans and 50 thousand Hungarian Europeans

If it were me, the second I got word that we were flanked I would have immediately pushed my whole force over the bridge and position my men along the river to make sure they wouldn't be able to ford it again without being shit on by artillery/arrows.

Hungarian are good warriors. They should have never defended the poles.

max radke It would not work because no army in the 11th century was capable of out maneuvering mongolian troops. Each mongolian troop had 4 to 5 horses with them, which means no ground troop, only cavalry archers that are very deadly and fast.

I would still take the epic general Khalid bin waleed over him